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about is where we solve this fiscal cliff by creating another fiscal cliff down the road is totally immature. it lacks political courage. we know what needs to be done, and let's get it done over the next three weeks. the options are not going to change. >> would you call on your party not to mount that sort of opposition to the president if he specifies how he's going to restructure medicare? >> i think that both -- look, i have laid out in great detail very painful cuts to medicare. i just did it in a 242-page bill that i have shared with the white house, shared with boehner, shared with mcconnell, in order to move us beyond this silly debate that's taking place. the fact is, claire knows this and i know this. there are serious reforms that have to take place in medicare for our country to become solvent. >> well, we have to be careful. and you're right about this, david. what is really irresponsible, that $716 billion, that was low-hanging fruit. that was fluff in the medicare system, savings that we had to recover. and by the way, it's the same savings that was in the ryan plan.
on the talks to avoid the fiscal cliff. coming up, chris wallace sits down with treasury secretary tim geithner and republican house speaker john boehner and he will explore what is keeping them from reaching a deal. >> jamie: also a freight train derailing, leaking dangerous chemicals in the air. investigators may now have identified a cause. clean-up continues. folks hopefully getting back in their homes. could that accident have been avoided? >> eric: former president george h.w. bush, he is still in the hospital this weekend. recovering from a bout of bronchitis. coming up, the sunday "housecall" doctors are here to explain why it can be dangerous for some people. can i help you? i heard you guys can ship ground for less than the ups store. that's right. i've learned the only way to get a holiday deal is to camp out. you know we've been open all night. is this a trick to get my spot? [ male announcer ] break from the holiday stress. save on ground shipping at fedex office. a new way to save on your prescriptions. it's the aarp medicarerx saver plus plan from unitedhealthcare. with this plan
with the fiscal cliff. have a credible down payment on the tax and spending side. bridge to a grand bargain next year. the fiscal cliff is the symptom. structural deficit is the disease. we need to learn from australia, canada, new zealand, sweden. we need to do it next year. >> all right. >> get dr. dave to washington right away so that we avoid what cramer on "meet the press" this weekend had great line. he said on january 8th when the reporting starts, there will be a foot race to fire people if we don't get this cliff taken care of which is why if we're going over the
the fiscal cliff mess. the dow is down right now for the month. it's pretty close, though. the s&p and the nasdaq are on track for winning months. here's how we stand now. a bit of volatility. not as much as we've seen lately. i will point out there's a rebalancing of a major international index occurring on the close today, so we're going to get a bunch of volume, maybe more volatility. we'll watch that through the final hour. right now the dow is down 24 points at 12,997. we're back below 13,000 at this hour. the nasdaq, as we said, positive for the month, is down 8.5 points right now. still above 3,000 at 3,003 and change. the s&p 500 is down three points. a little selling here in the beginning of the last hour, now at 1412. as we head into the last month of the year and closer to that fiscal cliff, how should you be positioning yourself right now? let's find out in our "closing bell" exchange today. mark, are you trying to look past this or trying to play the volatility right now that we're experiencing these days? >> no, for our clients, when we're managing money for our cli
-quarters of 1% on this reorganization plan. markets are down and held hostage by talks on the fiscal cliff in washington. little changed but down, more declining stocks compared to a advancing stocks so the market is negative today. cheryl: thank you very much. dennis: 31 days left before we go over the fiscal cliff. the chief economist of the national federation of independent business is here with what your small-business ought to be doing now. thanks for being with us. the first question i have is what if i just decide can't take uncertainty and will do nothing now. what do you say to that? >> that is what we see our business owners doing, they are really unclear about where the economy is going to go and what the impact of the cliff is going to be nd we ask about their outlook of business conditions six months out, mid year next year, 14% said they thought would be better but 19% thought it would be worse than 22% of time 37 your record highs, who knows? no idea where it will go. the best thing to do is sit tight. dennis: what bothers small people most? the rating creases that preside
on on capitol hill over the fiscal cliff. treasury secretary timothy geithner sitting down with the top leaders in congress and in the senate, they are discussing what needs to be done to reduce the deficit and maybe how much flexibility there could be on either side. the deal is to avoid a series of tax increases, and spending cuts that many believe would be a fiscal cliff that would kick in on january the 1st. chief congressional correspondent mike emanuel is watching it all unfold on capitol hill. what do we know about the visit about the expectations for what might happen during it. >> reporter: martha, timothy geithner arrived here on capitol hill a short time ago to meet first with senate majority leader harry reid. we know he's having individual meetings with the top four leaders of congress. what republicans have said they want to hear, and republicans will be critical, because they need republican support to get any final fiscal cliff deal through the senate, and also through the house, they say they hope that he's coming with concrete spending cut ideas that are acceptable to the admi
that are going back and forth as we count down to the fiscal cliff here. joining me now from new orleans is melissa harris perry. you got to hear all that. so first off, he regarded the conversation that he had with the president last night as a very nice conversation, direct and straightforward. it's been reported throughout the morning that it was more of a curt conversation. but it seems as if with the president going into this discussion, he holds all the cards and all the lemverage, bu it doesn't seem john boehner is willing to meet in the middle here. he said i'm not going to get into the details. why not tell us the details what have they want? >> i think because of what you just said. because as a matter of politics in fact hold the cards here. it's more than just sort that he has the ability to go over the fiscal cliff, allow sort of the 113th congress to convene. that congress will certainly continue to have a republican majority but also a greater influence of the democratic party, and a lesser influence of the tea party coalition within the republican party, and once that 113
and what we need down the line. man this is tough. >> it is. please don't make me say "fiscal cliff" again. the two words. all i talk about. >> eric: we had predictions that they will come to a deal. it's political jockeying now. >> that is what we are hoping for. >> eric: that is what all americans want. >> jamie: three words. fasten your seat belt. new report that the aging infrastructure may have played a role in freight train derailment in new jersey. truly tragic. seven cars jumping the tracks while the train was crossing a bridge. the problem is it was carrying hazardous chemicals in the air. live in the new york news room. i know there were evacuations. did the folks get go back home? >> the national transportation safety board saying the conductor with con-raid since 2008. worked the accident route previously but this was his first week back on it. the ntsb pointed to a faulty traffic signal for causing friday bridge collapse. train derailment and the toxic chemical release that caused the health problem for residents in pollsborough, new jersey. >> they are going to work the point
that it goes down the fiscal cliff monday. every day is fiscal cliff tuesday, wednesday, thursday. you get the picture. anyway, you should pull the trigger here to buy it here if the fiscal cliff does what i'm afraid of. brown foreman reports wednesday. this is an interesting one. why? because goldman downgraded it to sell. just last night. i've seen this movie. they were wrong last time. they'll be wrong again. i'm going to bet them a bottle of jack daniels that will be the case. in fact i'll bet them a case of jack daniels that will be the case. if they're close, as we told you we like asina. and i would be willing to be a buyer of that niche retailer ahead of this quarter because of some merger gains i think we'll hear about. but again only on news of setbacks to the fiscal cliff talks. we're not going to go in and buy anything these days. you'll get some representative congressman, senator come on say you stupid idiot. you bought stock and i'm talking on a microphone. i'm sending the stock market down because there's no progress. we have not one but two huge analyst days next week. onl
kicking exercise down the road would be better than the fiscal cliff? >> that's a tough one. the toothless can kicking exercise is hard. you've all helped make this a significantly watched issue. >> you want a pen? >> i'm happy to have a pen. >> you don't have yours on. >> i forgot. >> i've got mine prominently displayed. >> you forgot a couple days last week. >> we'll get you one. did we finally send them out? >> i saw some people got them. >>> when we come back, we'll have much more from our guest host today, greg fleming. but first, a new frontier of luxury. [ penélope ] i found the best cafe in the world. nespresso. where i never have to compromise on anything. ♪ where just one touch creates the perfect coffee. where every cappuccino and latte is only made with fresh milk. and where the staff is exceptionally friendly. ♪ nespresso. what else? >>> welcome back. everybody. the dow futures are up about 40 points this morning. s&p 500 are up by more than four and a half points. boeing says that u.s. regulators have ordered the entire fleet of 787 jets to be inspected for a possible fu
yesterday that spending cuts should be part of these fiscal cliff talks. where it may break down on the part about whether the president will push democrats on capitol hill to go along. it was tuesday that dick durbin said spending cuts, medicare cuts, ets, should not be part of these fiscal cliff cuts. we'll see whether durbin and others on the hill go along with what jay carney is saying. we'll see if that improves the possibility of a deal. megyn: we have 33 democratic lawmakers saying we are not touching social security now or for the future. this jackhammer is really rude. >> reporter: the cuts are being made as we speak. it's hard to cut the government. megyn: alert frank, the two guys features in your first report. someone else came to the white house hat must have been an extraordinary moment. mitt romney and obama get together. for me it's awkward that they had the meeting at the white house. was that mean? shouldn't they have don't at a tgif. neutral ground? not to rub his nose in the place that he wanted to live. >> reporter: given romney's finances, -- he came here, he left witho
. >> there you go. it's my fiscal cliff helmet down here in washington. >> oh, understood. >> i love it. let's go through the list. not surprising who is number one? >> a re-elected barack obama back at number one. two years ago we had hu jintao so it is not automatic the president is at the top but with a kind of mini mandate, four more years and the defacto leader of the free world it is a pretty easy selection of number one. >> angela merkel number two. easy to understand. >> europe goes through germany and germany goes through merkel. >> let's talk about vladimir putin coming in at number three. >> yes. he has been on the list even when he wasn't president because we all know who was still running the show then. he's back up there with a bullet. he's been as high as two on this list. here is somebody who has a u.n. security council permanency, controls a huge oil and gas reserve, has a nuclear tipped army and wields his power very effectively. >> and loves to show his muscles. many times as possible. >> powerful in many ways. that's right. >> of late bill gates has been the rodney dangerfield
to a f fiscal cliff deal. what's the latest and is this posturing, kelly, or is this real? i mean, is this disagreement about kind of laying out the stakes of where everybody stands and what they're willing to give or is it a possibility that we don't get a deal? >> reporter: well, you do hear rumblings, chris, about no deal. but at the same time people are saying there's still some negotiating time left and a bit of optimism. when you heard the tone of what was unfolding yesterday, it was kind of shocking to republicans who would say that the president's offer is so far from a negotiating point that they are surprised not so much that these are the positions that we're in because much has been the president's public rhetoric but in terms of real negotiating they say they were surprised this wasn't the kind of offer that would have happened some weeks ago, meaning right after the election if you want to start there. but now with just four weeks to go they felt the president needed to move further. democrats believe these are the priorities that voters reinforced with their ballots
the fiscal cliff. consumer confidence has remind high. business confidence is down so the first thing we want to know, that's not the right chart, we want to do on whether or not people heard about the fiscal cliff. have you heard of it? comparing it to some of the other times people asked about news event, there's the trayvon martin shooting in the street, occupy wall street, 82%, facebook ipo 7 %, 70% of the republic has heard it compared to the fiscal crisis in greece, 63% had heard it. in that number 36% had read a lot about it or heard a lot about it. do they believe a solution is likely? our numbers different from other poles. americans are more optic. first of all see what they think, unlikely 73% back in november when we asked about the debt program would there be an agreement, 73% saying that, now 44%. the number you want to think is 4% to 44% thinks a solution is likely. who thinks it's likely, that's interesting and driving this number. he can break it down by party. look at what we find, republicans 52-42, independents, i come back here, there we go, independents 47-32 and it's re
on optimism around the idea that we could reach some sort of a deal to overt the fiscal cliff. the dow closing more than 100 points higher after being down by more than that during the session. a swing like that hasn't happened since october 2011. u.s. equity futures at this hour actually higher. up by about 65 for the dow, s&p more than 7, and as joe mentioned, the fiscal cliff is still the focus. today treasury secretary tim geithner will be meeting with congressional leaders. first harry reid at about 10:00 and then followed by a session with john boehner, eric cantor, paul ryan and chairman of the house's tax writing ways and means committee dave camp. also lunch with republican senate minority leader mitch mcconnell and nancy pelosi. yesterday a number of high profile corporate leaders met with president obama at the white house, including lloyd blankfein. >> both sides have acknowledge there had is revenue concessions and entitlement concessions. in fact if you listen to it, again, i'm not a master of the political art here, but i would say if you have these point of views in a business
point it will come down to either fiscal cliff or we're going to have to make a deal, are you willing to go over the fiscal cliff or not have changes to medicare and medicaid? >> every single poll i have seen says do not cut social security or medicare and do away with corporate loopholes and ask the wealthy to start paying their fair share of taxes and look at excessive military spending. and, by the way, let's not forget, we have already in the last three years cut approximately $1.5 trillion in programs. this is not a hard, this is not a fiscal debate. this is a political debate, ceos from wall street, big money interest are there to protect their interests. they could care less about working class people and some of us want to defend the middle class. >> if nothing is done by congress, by now and the end of december, everyone's taxes are going to go up. >> that's why we've got to do something and that's why the republicans have to do exactly what we did in the senate which is to say we have to protect the bottom 98% of the american people. no tax increases at all. continue the tax
'm concerned about the fiscal cliff. in the past two days, two very well-connected professional money managers have spoken to me about their trepidation their clients have about the expiration of the bush tax cuts and the cut backs on spending. money is worried, concernend many are selling as you've seen. to read the stories of the press on the fiscal cliff, well, you'd think change is on the horizon just 33 days away, well, it doesn't maer much. in fact, just sit back, relax. the fiscal cliff is not a big deal. i'll quote one here. it's unlikely all of these bad things happen or stay in effect for an extended period of time. pundits call if the fiscal cliff smoke that is, instead o a cliff, the rising support for junking the fiscal approach as confusing and renaming it the austerity crisis or bomb. that's it. according to the u.s. news and world report, give the cliff another name, and that would change the entire impact on its problems. the reality, though, is this. you'll pay higher taxes in all likelihood consider these numbers from the tax policy center. middle class earners, folks with a
, and mitch mcconnell laughs, and boehner says it's terrible. there's a fiscal cliff, and this offer isn't good. show me the money, folks. you have the power. you're bragging about the fact that you kept the house. good. show us your offer. put down your offer. now, here's my view on this. and it is the same as the president's in this respect. rough the biggest aspects of the fiscal cliff is the fact that tax rates are going to go up on all americans. the senate has passed a bill that would give the middle class 98% of the people their tax cut. it is done. it's in a package. it's sitting at our desk. and all that has to happen is for the house to take it up. the only reason they're not taking it up is they want millionaires and billionaires to get their taxes cut, too. and this was a big issue in the campaign, thomas. so why don't we, instead of throwing insults, why don't they just pick up and pass that part as their own republican, tom cole suggested, let's have some good faith here, and we'll hammer out the rest of it. >> so senator, one thing you say about show me the money, if we ta
attention to the fiscal cliff. he made this as part of a nonpartson group because you can not be partisan and do gangam style. the can kicks back, they're urging young americans to help solve the nation's crisis. simpson was one half of the simpson bowles commission tasked with tackling the debt and deficit. >> gretchen: the reason he didn't kick the can was because he had a plan that you wouldn't have to kick the can. you would actually put our fiscal order better off. speaking of the fiscal cliff and social media and getting the message out to young people, we know what lawmakers are saying, but what about the taxpayers? ainsley earhart joins us with disheartening answers to say the least. >> some of these responses are pretty funny and yes, obviously not watching the news and keeping up with where their money is going. >> brian: they're not watching the 5:00 a.m show? >> they need to be. i don't know why they're not. maybe they will now. it's their money, it's their bank account. so of course, they know all about the fiscal cliff. right? well, not so much. i went to times square to fin
to the looming fiscal cliff, folks, one top republican says his party does not need to put a plan on the table. is that right? oklahoma congressman tom colatosti with his take on this next. >> this is unsustainable. we have 10,000 baby boomers like me retiring every day. 70,000 this week. 3.5 million retirees this year alone signing up for social security and medicare. people living longer, accessing medicaid. it is not like there is any money in the social security trust fund or medicare trust fund. it has all been spent. i'm only in my 60's... i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expenses. the rest is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, it helps pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. and could
's extend the fiscal cliff for six months and then get serious. nobody seems to want to do that. everybody wants at least a down payment, at least an agreement on the outlines of a tax program and a program on spending and then maybe they would give it more time to finish. >> we're still kicking the can down the road. you're absolutely right. you're going to get a short. term, let's get through the first quarter of 2013-type solution. but the reality of dealing with this economy, its debt, it's deficit, spending priorities and all of that is not going to get done in the next five weeks. so let's be honest about that. i agree with you. i think that they're going to come to a short-term stopgap solution that deals with the cliff, that deals with the bush tax cuts that expire, that deal with the increase in unemployment rate that's due to hit in january. they'll deal with those short-term things, but the long-term systemic substantive points that need to be addressed will not get addressed in the next four weeks. >> steve, how would you markets respond if they decide we'll have a short-term f
're down to 26 days. bob, can you really make a deal on the fiscal cliff when the negotiation is out in public? do you think we'll get a deal done? that's what everybody wants to know. >> if everybody thinks we ought to get to a deal, we'll get to a deal. the public part of this, obviously, it's different. you got to get 435 people to vote in the house and 100 in the senate. different than getting a board to approve a fundamentally, getting to a deal is about understanding expectations. this public thing is a very good point. it couldn't be different. when two ceos are meeting to do a merger negotiation, one guy shows up in jeans, and the other guy has sunglasses on. they meet at the o'hare hilton. they don't want anybody to know about it. >> wait a minute. let's point this out. go ahead, jeff. >> the risk is taking the worst part of what wall street does, which is this negotiation of do a deal, do a deal, do a deal, do any deal. that's what happened with hp-autonomy. that's what you don't want to take from wall street in this situation. >> let's face it. a ceo is judged on success b
was one of those days, show a lot of americans don't even know about the fiscal cliff. paychecks are going to go down, a million layoffs in the defense industry. no one seems to care right now. it's bad. >> you know what we have going for us? the grid, december 17 announced -- on a seasonal basis, they have reiterated once again that it doesn't have the demand to be sold year round, but starting a week from monday. >> i don't buy that. i think they do it because whenever they have mcrib, they're just fighting traffic for mcrib. there are places in the world where the mcrib is on the menu all the time. in case you're there on your vacation. >> i'm learning here all the time. i'm always learning. >> switch from the bacon cheese-inator. [ bell rings ] . >> celebrating the ground breaking of hotels in new york. we'll be speaking to the ceo in this hour. >> whitehorse is an interesting story. >> white house, delayed over at the nasdaq, the new york stock exchange puts out a release reiterating 16 companies have announced or moved to the big board so for this year. you're starting to wonder who
interests to pass it, or to block action on the fiscal cliff if the markets are going ballistic. it would settle down after a while. host: what is the likelihood we will see changes? guest: they will not necessarily occur at the beginning of congress. there is a good chance that they will step back and do a compromise that involved both parties. host: norman ornstein, thank you for your time. we'll take a closer look at expiring tax credits for families and business with steven sloan of politico. we'll have that right after this. [video clip] >> a program began under rexford tugwell, who was one of the advisers to president franklin roosevelt, to document the conditions under which people were living. this was back when we didn't have television. we had radio, but a lot of places didn't have electricity, so they couldn't listen to the radio broadcast to find out what was going on other in parts of the country. roy stryker, who was an economist from columbia university, he was the head of this project, and in 1939 when kodak introduced color film, they sent film to roy stryker to have his
to go over the fiscal cliff. that's crazy for our country. let's get these as i said extend the tax cuts for those under $250,000. let's agree on a down payment. let's get not only the predictability on the tax code for 98% of americans but also get the automatic across the board cuts off the table for next year. then allow our committees to go to work to bring in the additional savings that we need. i think we can get that blueprint done in the next couple of weeks. >> do you believe that, sir? because have you talked to your republican colleagues in the senate? i mean, do they have a point at which they believe is their we can't pass we cannot cross this line? do you think you're able to meet at least in the senate? >> i think so. i really do believe that the majority of the members of the senate want to get this done, want to get it done now. they want to get predictability to the 98% of taxpayers on their tax rates come january 1st. they want to get these across the board sequestration cuts off the table. they want to make a down payment on the debt. they believe we can get it done.
. with so much pressure about fiscal cliff. neil: what do you mean? >> look at timing it looks like that obama is really appearing to really work with the republican, really reaches out. neil: he did a number of things that make it seem that way, i might consider raising taxes not up to clinton rate, i might look at spending issues now. >> he will want to raise taxes, but he will consider looking at some spending cuts, but not deep enough to where it will matter. neil: overture? we -- this is not announced but just rumors, we might not have to go back up to highest clinton rate, we could split the difference. >> i just don't see with him holding so much, i do not see -- i think it is inevitable we might either fall off the cliff or it will be up until the deadline. neil: you know the value by the way, in bringing more republicans under your cabinet? is that you not only think about your legacy, you really are trying to move the ball forward. you start putting republicans to your cabinet or those uniquely skilled to do etch and everything in your cabinet, we know what happens when yo
be apple. >>> to washington now. the soap opera we call the fiscal cliff. before we get to our chief washington john harwood and the president is meeting with another grouch ceos, i need to start with eamon javers on capitol hill where lawmakers are skipping down early for a long weekend. eamon, wasn't thanksgiving just a couple weeks ago? >> it was. let me check michael ichaey cal. you see rank and file members of congress leaving the capitol. they are done for the week. they're headed back loam to their hometown districts. a lot of folks focused on this negotiation right now but the reality is that the negotiations are taking place among just a very few, very high level people. i was talking to a few rank and file members yesterday who said they were frustrated there is not a whole lot for them to do, they are just sitting around here waiting for some break-through in these negotiations. they want something to do on the floor, in their offices and there is not much for them to sink their teeth into. now they're going into their district. leadership is going to stay here and continu
of the discussions of the fiscal cliff, the white house is focused solely on cuts for top earners. almost no discussion of unemployment insurance and payroll taxes, the farm bill which would include the price of milk and food stamps on a broader level. at what point do these become sticking points in the negotiation? >> reporter: they're going to become sticking points and probably before the end of the year, because remember there are a couple of things going on. if the president gets a deal on rates, republicans are going to be less inclined to go along with some of the other things, like extended unemployment insurance and some sort of extension perhaps in different form of the payroll tax cut. but also to avoid the sequestration, the congress has got to find some way to have cuts in the interim. if they kick the can down the road they have to have month by month cuts. the farm bill, talking $10 billion a month to in effect buy off the sequestration while they negotiate, the farm bill if you take the senate bill, $23 billion in subsidies cut overall, $4 billion as mentioned from food s
by this afternoon. >>> and it looks like those talks in washington to avoid that so-called fiscal cliff, looming at year's end, will go down to the wire after all. senate republican leader mitch mcconnell says that he laughed out loud thursday when he saw president obama's latest plan to avoid a middle-class tax increase. republicans are demanding more spending cuts. >>> and just as millions of americans shop online, rely on their gifts to be shipped by the holidays, the biggest seaports in the country are at a virtual standstill. union workers at the los angeles and long beach terminals are on strike. protesting outsourcing of jobs. 40% of all u.s. imports come through those terminals. negotiations are set to resume today. >>> very unusual scene just south of there, in san diego. an out-of-control truck slammed into a fire hydrant, sending water shooting cinematically 30 feet into the air. like a geyser. the truck actually plowed into a bar, leaving a gaping 11-foot hole in the wall. thankfully, no one was hurt. >>> now, here's diane sawyer, with a preview of tonight's "world news." diane? >> j
heads back to work this morning as the clock is ticking down toward the impending fiscal cliff. talks, though, seem to be at a stalemate. yesterday with just 29 days until tax hikes and deep spending cuts kick in. both republicans and the democrats were running to the airwaves to try to explain their positions. here's what they said. >> what we're not going to do is extend those tax cuts with the wealthiest americans. those cost a trillion dollars over ten years and there's no possibility that we're going to find a way to get our fiscal house in order without those tax rates going back up. >> nobody wants to go over the cliff. that's why the day after the election i tried to speed this process up by making the concession to put revenues on the table. it's unfortunate that the white house has spent three weeks doing basically nothing. >> the administration has presented a plan that calls for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenues. $400 billion in cuts to medicare and other entitlements. $50 billion for a new stimulus and congress would have to give up control over raising the debt limit. re
it down, danielle hughes, ceo of divine capital markets. it's very interesting to me. fiscal cliff or not, china, europe, whatever, the s&p 500 up 12.1% year to date. that is a good year. that is an optimistic year. why is that? >> it seems like we're forgetting about that, doesn't it? with all this talk about what's happening going forward and concern about corporate growth. and truly, we're concerned about corporate growth as well because there really hasn't been that long-term information from our government, from our policyholde policyholders, no economic policy in real investment in assets that we've seen. that's going to be a problem going forward, not to mention the global slowdown, and we're hitting the top of corporate profits now. >> so you don't agree with this. you're turning bearish. >> not bearish in a sense of going forward intermittently. we think that most likely, we're going to see some growth hitting in the second quarter of next year. until we get through this fiscal cliff nonsense, until we see some growth coming out of china and europe, i think that -- >> china i thi
, 2012. i'm gretchen carlson. count down to the edge. 29 days from the fiscal cliff and this is what republicans say about the white house's latest offer. >> flabbergasted. he can't be serious. >> gretchen: but treasury secretary tim geithner says republicans need to make the next move. he's straight ahead. >> gretchen: nfl player murders his girlfriend, kills himself. so what does bob costa say during half time? call for a moment of silence perhaps? no, he pushes for gun control. is that really appropriate? >> steve: that's what he did. sibling rivalry starts in the womb and, ladies and gentlemen there, is proof. the sonogram. that's the first round. twins fighting? can you believe it? that's okay. "fox & friends" hour two for monday starts right now. >> brian: can i lean over now? >> steve: yeah, go ahead. >> steve: that is an extraordinary picture. >> gretchen: it is extraordinary because could it be that the twins in the womb are going no, you move over! i want more food out of that umbilical colored. >> brian: the one thing about that uterus, it's tight in will. >> gretchen: i'm
need to have fundamental tax reform tied in to the fiscal cliff negotiations or we are never going to get anywhere on that front and that is dragging the economy down. i think taxes have to be higher. $400 billion out of medicare is about what gets cut every year anyway. medicare has been cut from the baseline every year in budgets for as long as i can remember. [talking over each other] connell: that the democrats would sign on to? what number could you get if you had $400 billion? >> something that addresses the fact that there are $40 trillion in unfunded medicare liabilities over the rest of this century. i am adding that up, $400 billion doesn't get it done. connell: have to remember these things are stretched over ten years. in one case it was 12 years and we thought was 10. steve murphy, thanks for coming on. dagen: the u.s. embassy meantime in egypt now closed amid protests in the country against president mohammad morsi. voting has started on the new constitution. kc mcfarland, formerly distance secretary of defense and fox news national security analyst, great to see you.
and no fiscal cliff fights are going to stop him from a shopping blitz at washington's new costco super store. the veep came looking for pies and left with a television, books, fire logs, and a huge smile trailed by a horde of surprised shoppers. >> just walking through this store. get some guidance. >> you know, i have a feeling that the president may have missed his usual lunch partner at the midday meal today. joining us from washington is msnbc own historian the great chris matthews, the host of "hardball" and the author of quk jack kent, elusive hero," available now. highways t that's the advertising over. we learned the menu including white turkey chili and no humble pie after all. >> no dessert at all. i wondered about that double helping of poultry. what a strange meal. the turkey and then the chicken part. it's a strange meal. must have been dietary rules. i don't think that's a natural decision by the chef. strange meal. >> how do you think the meeting went though in truth? >> i think it's been screwed up because mr. romney, the governor, gave a wonderful concession speech, he came
employed -- >> eric: you agree to get something done so we don't go off the fiscal cliff and sequestration to get kick in? genuine in negotiating and get a deal. >> andrea: we can do what we like. the catch phrase. kick the can down the road. coming up, trillion-dollar ticking time bomb in addition to one we're talking about that could undermine the american economy. what is it? don't tell you. we'll tell you -- don't move. we'll tell you. that is next on "the five." ♪ ♪ or that printing in color had to cost a fortune. nobody said an all-in-one had to be bulky. or that you had to print from your desk. at least, nobody said it to us. introducing the business smart inkjet all-in-one series from brother. easy to use. it's the ultimate combination of speed, small size, and low-cost printing. >> eric: future of america. watch. >> who is your favorite founding father? >> abraham lincoln. >> he's not a founding father. first president. >> i want to get this down on a tape recorder because nobody will believe me. >> george washington. >> what is a founding father? >> hi. i'm earth. have we met
meets with governors at the white house. they will be discussing, what else, the impending fiscal cliff. >>> news corporations uk chief tom mockridge is stepping down. he took over the unit 18 months ago at the height of the company's phone hacking scandal >>> the time has finally come, cory booker taking the food stamp challenge this week. the newark mayor will only be eating with food he can buy for $37. that is the average food stamped benefit in his week. booker said he will be giving up coffee because he can't afford it. that will be tough for us. >> no doubt. >> interesting to see at the end of that how he does. >> i'm sure he will be documenting on twitter what goes on during those days. coming up, one of the strangest cases of cosmetic surgery, can't make this up. did you read about this? mustache implants. that's right. we'll tell you about it next. [ male announcer ] when this hotel added aflac to provide a better benefits package... oahhh! [ male announcer ] it made a big splash with the employees. [ duck yelling ] [ male announcer ] find out more at... [ duck ] aflac! [ male
there to think congress will be able to come to some sort of resolution. congress designed the fiscal cliff. i think probably senator thune from south dakota is making the most sense last night saying maybe we should kick the can down the road for six months instead of trying to rush it i'm not a fan of kicking the can down the road, that's what congress does. in this case, you have everyone scrambling, trying to examine the ramifications of the election. you have new people coming in. some of the people voting were thrown out of congress. why not wait until the 1st of the year. >> kicking the can, you look at markets today. you have global markets up. stock futures are up. the stock market was up yesterday because this whole idea of optimism from john boehner and the president that this could get done by the end of the year is something the world wants to see. you look at our polling. our polling shows, and the most recent poll from abc news/"washington post," 60% of people support raising tacks on incomes over $250,000 per year. isn't the argument of kicking the can down the road losing some
for an older, wiser, business leader. but first -- >>> still to come with the fiscal cliff getting closer -- >> if i were involved in a negotiation like this and everybody was purporting to be where they are, i would say that an agreement was reachable. >> we will help you rise above the rhetoric. former federal reserve vice chair alice rivlin, all that and much more on "squawk on the street." wooohooo....hahaahahaha! oh...there you go. wooohooo....hahaahahaha! i'm gonna stand up to her! no you're not. i know. you know ronny folks who save hundreds of dollars switching to geico sure are happy. how happy are they jimmy? happier than a witch in a broom factory. get happy. get geico. fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. serves as director of the national budget. recently served as a mechanical of the simpson bowles commission. you look lovely as always. i'm told you're wearing a rather important pin. >> yes, i have on the pin. i'm in favor of rising above all this part san ship and getting deal done. >> you think that's possible, but you're not sure what that can happen by
budget plan to be included in the fiscal cliff talks. >> hold up the budget and say democrats on capitol hill vote for including the spending cuts in this deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. that is not what they are doing now. should they include those? >> yes. i think that, and i know that democrats accept that this has to be it, a balanced package, that includes revenues and cuts and spending cuts. >> months ago, the budget carney held up was voted down by the entire senate. 99-0. meaning no democratic support. earlier, dick durbin insisted spending cuts from entitlement reform will not be part of the talks while pelosi spell noncommittal whether the cuts will be in the deal. still, the administration is trying to breathe life to the talks, with vice president biden shopping at new costco in washington, picking up a big screen tv and apple pie and insisting he is optimistic of a deal. >> i am. i am. all the folks in the store, man. going to make a difference. >> carney shot down a politico report that a phone call last night between boehner and the president was curt, noting it was 28 min
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else that republicans are worried about, not 92 but 1994 when the government shut down, newt gingrich was blamed. >> trust me, you talk to republicans, no matter how this shakes off, if we go over the fiscal cliff, we are to blame. i hear that over and over. something to what tom said, it's an amazing notion that a just-elected democrat president is necessary to make permanent the bush tax cuts. they were tax rate cuts across the board. the idea that most of them could be made permanent -- bush couldn't have gotten that done in 2004 after being re-elected. i do think that republicans should take a victory lap in that regard. >> it is really politically smart to do this. you know, but it's also particularly smart to cut the knees out from under grover norquist. who is he? he's an unelected -- >> it's not him. >> he represents something that's real. he represents something that's real. >> i think everybody recognizes to get these numbers to work you have to have revenue increases. the question is, do you need tax rate increases or not? i think it's very tough to make the math work. >> h
the fiscal cliff? >> it comes to the white coats, the doctors. that's one thing to watch here. because the doctors, the money they get from medicare, that could go down almost 30%. the result, fitch says medicare recipients would have even lower access to doctors, hospitals, and the industry overall would also see a severe negative effect as money coming into the industry, that goes down. this is the number of medicare recipients they expect to thk by some 20 million in the next decade. >> and we heard from chris van hollen, he is against raising the age of eligibility. so lots still to be decided. but thanks for helping us with that. that will wrap up this hour of jansing and company. thomas roberts is up next. >>> good morning, everybody. the agenda next hour, mitt on the menu. mr. romney goes to washington for lunch. can president obama and mitt romney bury the hatchet for the good of the country? we'll head to the white house for a live report on the president's lunch date with his former presidential rival. plus president obama deploys his top man at the treasury to capitol hill f
in what's happened over the last couple weeks. but going over the fiscal cliff is serious business. and i'm here seriously trying to resolve it. and i would hope the white house would get serious as well. paul. [ inaudible question ] meeting with secretary geithner or your phone call with president obama last night. could you tell us something about that phone call? >> well, we had a very nice conversation last night. it was direct. and straight forward. but this assessment i give you today would be a product of both of those conversations. >> how much would you be open to the idea of discretionary spending cuts as part of a down payment to get to a longer-range solution on entitlements and tax reform? >> there are a lot of options on the table, including that one. >> mr. speaker, before the election, you were asked whether if it obama won taxes would have to go up. and you sounded like you opposed that. now you're acknowledging that they will. >> the day after the election, i came here and made it clear that republicans would put revenue on the table. as a way to begin to move the proces
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